Stage diving debate

Is it ok to stagedive?

So, Noisey has an interesting article about stage diving that caught my attention. It's in regards to some god awful band from California called Joyce Manor. (I checked out some of their songs on iTunes and I will never get that time back.) Apparently, they stopped their show to address some rowdy guys that were stage diving and possibly causing harm to other fans during their set.

Now, I for one don't see the big deal with this move by the band. If there are guys being total dicks and possibly causing harm to others at a show, someone should say something. Having said that, I love seeing stage diving at shows. I don't participate in it anymore, but I love seeing it. I don't do it because I don't want to be mid-air and see the crowd part like the Red Sea. I also don't want to be on the receiving end of it either. Nothing worse than seeing a fat kid dive off and land on top of you. Reminds me of a song by Richmond's on Wheelbite called "Fat Kid Stage Dive".

Let's see what old man Adult Crash has to say about this topic:

The older I get, the less I understand stage diving. I was definitely a stage diver in my youth. I dove with the best of them to all my favorites. Youth of Today is playing tonight? I had my Air Jordan III's laced up and ready to go. Agnostic Front opens up with "Victim In Pain"? My legs are on autopilot and running up to the stage. Floorpunch just announced "Clear" as their last song of the night? I was doing multiple dives during the whole song.

I did all of this until my mid 20's. Then a couple of years after I graduated from college, I sprained my ankle badly while diving. The $300 trip to the emergency room (I had no insurance from 18-30. This was in 1998) smartened me up really quick.

It's fine for people to dive if you see it coming. However, I never felt much sympathy for the guy who landed on people out of nowhere, and then promptly got his ass handed to him by someone really angry about it.

Not to sound all Fugazi, but stage divers, for the most part, are kind of assholes. It's not like they're the only ones that can get hurt. They're taking liberties with everyone else's health as well.

-Adult Crash

Well now...Who wants to bet that he came up with this from his rocking chair? This is how I picture it.

D.C.S.

Salad Days Trailer

Great horny toads! The Salad Days trailer has been released with the announcement that Soul Side is playing with Moss Icon and a third band that has yet to be announced. Been looking forward to this show for quite some time. (And by quite some time, I mean the last couple of weeks since I finally started to appreciate Soul Side.) Looks like it will be at the Black Cat in December and you can bet the farm that I'm dragging Adult Crash with me to see them play. Peep the trailer.

Salad Days Trailer

D.C.S.

Love getting surprises like this

Malvo has put yours truly on blast recently with talk about my lack of commitment to this blog of ours. First of all, I'm not the one geeking out like a 14 year old over a video game. (That game is Destiny by the way.) I get some righteous jams to listen to and this slacker is playing video games. He is a total man-child. I should get in touch with his boss and let him know what he does when he works from home...

So let me tell you about the gift that just showed up in my email. A compilation that apparently is not available in the States yet, but features a couple of bands that we have talked about on here. The comp is called "Stomp-I-Lation" and has 7 songs from Boston Strangler, 9 songs from Waste Management and 9 songs from Peacebreakers.

First off, I don't know if this download is just a bad quality or if the recording is just not great. But as good as these songs are by Boston Strangler, the sound of it leaves something to be desired. Sounds all muddy. But these songs are fucking sweet! This should be their next 7" if it isn't already.They kick off the comp with "Dead Weight" and it sets an awesome tone for the rest of their songs. Fucking love this band.

Next up is Waste Management and the recording sounds a lot better. Which makes me wonder about the Boston Strangler part of this comp... Anyway, these songs by Waste Management are pretty killer. I personally like the hockey reference in "Hurts Tu(Kka R)Ask / Power Abuse". It starts with the beginning of "Hurts To Ask" by Chain Of Strength, but immediately goes into Power Abuse. I'm a big fan of the power violence style and this band knows how to do it well.

Third and final band on this comp is Peacebreakers and I've never heard of them. I'd ask Malvo if he knows anything about them, but the last time I talked to him, he was going on and on about a Deadpool movie being made. Fucking nerd!

Peacebreakers are rad! I don't know if they're from Boston like the other two bands on this comp, but they sure sound like it. The weird thing about their contribution to this comp is that they only have two studio recordings and the rest of the songs are live. I can tell you this much, they sound good live. If anybody has any info on these guys, please send them our way.

All in all, this comp is pretty crucial. Thanks to my boy for hooking me up with this. Great way to kick start my Friday. According to my friend, it's only available to our European friends at the moment. I assume on vinyl. Hopefully this gets a vinyl release in the States sometime soon.

D.C.S.

Second chance listen: Soul Side

It's been a while since our last entry, but we can assure you that we're not being lazy. Well, maybe Adult Crash is being lazy. I mean, who puts his career, family and responsibilities over doing this blog? He does! Selfish bastard...

Anyway, I saw an ad from Dishord promoting a re-issue of Soul Side's album Trigger and Bass/103. Now, neither one of us was into them during their hay day, but I'm gonna give it another chance. Notice I said, "I" would give it another chance. Adult Crash is blaming his work and family schedule on not participating in this entry. Pssh slacker.

First couple of songs are pretty catchy and I'm really digging Bobby Sullivan's vocals. But the song that grabs me right away is "Name In Mind". This song kicks ass! I've now listened to this song like 10 times in a row. It's a little moody with some attitude in the vocals and the music just rocks. Holy crap, how did I not appreciate this years ago?





I've now turned off "Repeat Song" and continuing with the rest of the album and "Problems Faced When Traveling" is just as good! I'm beginning to see why people are getting excited about a possible reunion show for them this year. If that in fact happens, I can assure you that I will be there.

I've now listened to this entire release and I love it! I have their 7" somewhere and I know I probably listened to it like once or twice and never bothered with it again. Gonna have to find that bad boy and make sure I didn't use it as a coaster or something equally stupid.

D.C.S.

Interview - NickTape

We've decided to try something new here at D.C. Sniper Headquarters. We're going to channel our inner Howard Stern and do some interviews with some people that we'd like to know more about beyond hardcore. First up, from Coke Bust, Sectarian Violence, Red Death and...well, he can tell you the rest. Let's get to know NickTape!

Name, age and bands you're in?

My name is Nick and I'm 27 years old. I live in Brookland and I play in Coke Bust (vocals), Sectarian Violence (vocals), Red Death (bass), Sem Hastro (drums) and Smartsam Utlosning (bass).

I assume Coke Bust is your first band? How did it come about? If not, what was?

Actually I played in a million bands when I was in middle/high school. I was first a drummer and played in a lot of horribly named groups: Poverty Box (named after the cafeteria vending machine), The Meat Eaters, and Ego Trip. When I was 15 I started my first hardcore band called GRIPTAPE.  We were formed two days before our first show at the Rockville Mayor's son's birthday party at a pool house.

When I was a senior in high school, Griptape played our last show and I started Bail Out with some friends. This was the first band I ever toured with. Coke Bust was formed in 2006 from the ashes of Bail Out with two of the members, me and Parsons (bass), looking to do something faster and more aggressive with a straight edge message. Coke Bust was weird because we didn't have any ambitions with the band other than to have something to do in the summer of 2006. We recruited my old buddy Chris on drums (who also briefly drummed for Griptape), and tried out a few guitar players. The rest is history!

What band got you into hardcore? And how were you exposed to it?

My older sister got me into skateboarding, which slowly corrupted me and put me in touch with the kids who generally had more fun and got into more trouble than my previous friends. Skate videos exposed me to DRI, Black Flag, The Misfits, The Ramones, Minor Threat and other cool stuff. Still, I had no way of knowing more about these bands until that same sister explicitly showed me punk. She told me about a local DC band called Crispus Attucks and she described them as "skatecore." They were scheduled to play a free outdoor show at Fort Reno in Tenleytown and I was really pumped to check it out. Once I saw them, it was like the fucking lights went out. I didn't remember any of their riffs. I had no idea what they were playing. I didn't follow the music at all. The guitar player looked like a pirate and I was scared as hell. There were all kinds of freaks and hippies at the show passing out flyers for protests for things I had no idea about. It was wild. It was like someone unlocked a secret level of reality and I felt as one with the community. I knew after that show that I was onto some next-level shit.

I attribute all of this to my sister. I used to sneak into her room when she was out of the house and read all her MRR's, make tapes of her Minor Threat and 7 Seconds CD's, etc. I used to write down the bands names that I thought sounded cool. I figured out what an LP was and found an old turntable in my parents' basement. I would save my money and order records from the labels with the cheapest prices. The Havoc Records $3ppd 7"s led me to checking out a lot of sicker stuff like Civil Disobedience, Destroy, Tampere SS, etc. At this time I was still into the Fat Wreck / Epitaph / Hopeless stuff, too, but I'm not ashamed of that. Eventually I befriended some other punks and skaters at my school and we all fed off each other and checked out new stuff all the time. From that point on, my involvement and hardcore fan-dom exploded exponentially. We went to tons of shows, did our own bands, organized our own shows, and for a hot second Montgomery County Maryland even had a cool little insular punk scene with all the kids from Rockville, Twinbrook, Bethesda, Gaithersburg and Silver Spring. That's when I met Chris (Coke Bust drummer), James (Coke Bust guitar player), Trey from Hounds Of Hate, and the other Magrudergrind dudes. Those were exciting times.

You've toured all around the world, what is your favorite place? And is there a place that you want to go back to.

It's tough to pinpoint just one place and say it's my favorite. Sweden has had a profound effect on me and I've met some incredible people there. If I could legally move and work there, I would. I've been casually studying the language for the past couple of years, and it's a goal to eventually reach fluency. Sweden has also culturally placed a high value on the arts and because of this there seems to be a rich supply of awesome music, past and present.

I would say that touring in Brazil was a dream come true, but to be honest, it wasn't even a place that I ever would have seen on my radar. I'm forever grateful for that opportunity, and I know that I have to go back and see more. It was actually through this tour that introduced me to my current roommate Sao Paulo. Hanging out with him and talking everyday has vicariously taken me closer to the country, too. Hardcore is just cool like that.

Honorable mentions go out to: Iceland, Poland, San Francisco, Vermont and Finland.

Who's got the most groupies?

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Who is the biggest ball buster/prankster in the band? And have any of you gotten into any trouble because of it while on the road?

We are all pretty much on the same page with our senses of humor. We all enjoy playing jokes on each other. James and I probably go the hardest, though. I can't think of any instances where we've gotten ourselves into significant trouble on the road. Sometimes I think people can be off-put by our idiotic inside jokes (that only we think are funny). But this is more a product of us spending loads of time together.

Touring world wide means you've seen a lot. What is the strangest thing you've seen on the road?

We've seen a lot of weird stuff: enormous lawn gnomes for sale in the Polish countryside, a man we stayed with in Bulgaria once convinced me that he was stealing my identity. Some of us made a wrong turn in Brazil and stumbled into a park full of men pleasuring themselves together in the woods. We played a grindcore festival in the remote mountains of Eastern France a couple of years ago. That was an insane experience. European squats are always a trip. Watching a Greek man inject heroin into his balls. I could go on forever...

We saw Coke Bust play out about a year or so ago and you had some family members in the audience. What do they think of it? Are they into it? Do they think it's weird and crazy? In any case, we thought it was a cool sign of support.

Both my sisters are really into it and have been incredibly supportive. I can't count the number of times they've driven us to the airport or dropped me off at Chris' house before tours. My parents don't really enjoy hardcore punk at all. My dad used to like MC5 as a kid, but that's about it. I think my mom wishes I would stay in DC for longer periods of time and be a little more career-oriented. She's Polish, though, and gets very excited about me going back there.

Let's play Fuck, Marry, Kill: Kate Upton, Sofia Vergara and Katie Perry. Gotta fuck one, marry one and kill one. GO!

The only person I know out of that list is Katie Perry and I hate her music. So I'll answer the question like this: Workout to Merauder / Relax to Thin Lizzy / Drive to Project Pat / Wash my dishes to Assuck / Write to Jimmy Ruffin. 

 

Come on Nick, you don't know these two beauties?

When you're not being a madman on stage, what do you do for fun?

When I'm not working/hustling or doing all this band/hardcore shit, I love reading about old heavy metal bands and checking new stuff out. I collect stamps. I'm working on writing a book about all my experiences. I'm not sure / don't care if it'll ever get published. I just want to have it. I enjoy working out, cooking food, hanging out with my roommates and hanging out with my family. I closely follow football and ice hockey. I meditate a lot.  I also love traveling outside of the realm of punk and hardcore. I need to do that more.

Favorite front man and why?

Some of my favorites: Kurt Brecht of DRI (I've always loved how he managed to fit a million syllables on the faster earlier material), HR, Mike Muir (some of the rawest/realest lyrics ever.), John Brannon (absolute madman), Blaine Cook from the Accused (sickest voice).

Hail to the Redskins or change the name?

Hail to the Redskins until they change the name (and they should), and then Hail whatever that team name is.

What band should people be listening to that nobody really knows about yet?

Rats of Reality from Sweden, DisXease from Brazil, Arms Race from England, Modern Problems from Buffalo, Post Teens from Florida, Satan's Satyrs from DC (although a lot of people know about them now....whatever).

Will Coke Bust be putting out any other 9 minute LP's in the future? I say that in jest because of some criticism you all got after the record came out. I actually ranted about it on our little blog here.

I can only hope we will! HAHA

Are you a record collecting nerd? If so, what's your holy grail?

I wouldn't say that I'm a record collector or a nerd about it. I've never gone after colored vinyl and limited versions of records. I would like to own some early Dischord stuff, but I wouldn't drop hundreds of dollars on a record. Most really really really sick or rare records that I've acquired in the past have gotten sold over the years. Quitting jobs and touring extensively are the expensive hobbies that I have adopted over record collecting. No regrets. I can always go back and buy records. I can't travel in time and retroactively go on tour with my friends.

You're stranded on an island and you can jam out to Slayer or Metallica for the rest of your life. Who do you go with?

I am going with Metallica 10 out of 10 times. Slayer is awesome, of course, but I don't think that their best material holds a candle to Metallica's. I think Slayer stayed "good" or "listenable" a lot longer, But Metallica is sicker in my opinion. My favorite kind of metal is also NWOBHM, so it makes sense that I choose this. My favorite Metallica material is, not surprisingly, Kill Em' All.

Any last words or shout outs?

Anyone who discourages your passions in life is your enemy. Shout out to my man Seth F...I hope Montana is good.

Thanks for your time, Nick.

D.C.S.

New band from D.C.

You know, it's been a while since I got really pumped up about a local band. And thanks to the Livewire Board, I found out about a new band called Protester. (Being a lurker has it's advantages.) Found this little bio about the band for their demo that you can get on Bandcamp along with their 7".

Protester is the straight edge brain child of Connor from Abuse/ Last Words/ Double Negative. Much like bands like Boston Strangler and Violent Reaction, this is a solo project that is now an active band (with members of Coke Bust and Thick Skin). Musically it takes cues from the early 80's Boston crew, as well as the early REV roster.

All this really means to me is that it pretty much kicks ass. Check them out.

D.C.S.

CORROSION OF CONFORMITY -"Tarquinius Superbus" [Lyric Video]

It's another slow day at the office and the D.C. Sniper Team is passing the time with texts about C.O.C. and their new album. And whether or not they could possibly put out anything that will hold a candle to their early material. Their first three albums are just full of hits, there's no denying that. Eye For An Eye, Technocracy and Animosity are just all around greats. But then the 90's and beyond brought us Blind, Deliverance, Wiseblood and some others. None of those did anything for us and then we just forgot about them still being around.

Then, from out of nowhere, they announced that they were going to be doing a tour playing Animosity as the three piece that recorded it. We would've liked to have seen that tour since neither one of us has ever gotten to see them, but we missed out. I would be curious to hear how those shows went.

Now, I'm seeing that they have released a new album called IX and I had to satisfy my curiosity. Maybe I've been missing out this whole time? In any case, I'm going to give this new album a chance. They have a video for a song called "Tarqinius Superbus" and my first impression of this song is that
it's not bad. Pretty solid rock song, BUT it's about three minutes too long. The whole jam session that is going on in the song bored me. On the bright side, I'm happy to see that Mike Dean is singing for the band again. In my opinion, he should've always been the vocalist for the band. He just sounds awesome. Then I heard some more songs on this album and got bummed...




Again, I haven't heard anything by them in years, so maybe this nothing new for the band. But the first two songs on here sound weird to me. I mean, he's actually "singing". I thought that it was someone else for a second, but no. Sure enough, it's him. If someone had played me the songs from this album and said, guess who this is? I would never, in a million YEARS, guess that it was C.O.C. Anyway, there are a couple of hard hitting songs on here, but for the most part, it's these bluesy rock songs that are not what I'd expect from the band that brought us songs like "Mad World", "Technocracy" and "Indifferent".

Overall, I am not a fan of this record. There are a couple of songs that I can hang with like "Denmark Vesey", "The Nectar" and "Tarquinius Superbus" but for the most part, it's just not my thing. Maybe it will grow on me? In the mean time, I'm gonna go listen to Eye For An Eye, Six Songs With Mike Singing, Technocracy and Animosity. In that order.

D.C.S.

D.C. Sniper Team takes in a show

This past Sunday, I got a call from Adult Crash saying that he would be able to go to Baltimore to check out Jello Biafra and the Guantanamo School of Medicine. But he had to take care of some parental duties first. I arrive in time to tag along to a t-ball game, get some home made pasta and to give out high fives to the kids. They love their Uncle Malvo. Yes, I tell the kids to call me that. (Adult Crash does not see the humor in that. Probably because his wife would be less than amused.) After all that, away we go!

The show was at the Ottobar with Negative Approach and a local band called War on Women. We arrive in time to check out War on Women and the place is already packed. Not crazy packed, but definitely a lot of people. War on Women aren't bad. Didn't know what to expect from them, but they were pretty good. Solid punk rock-ish kind of band. Never heard of them, but they got a great response from the crowd. Maybe they've been around a while? In any case, I would check them out again.

Next up was Negative Approach and since Adult Crash didn't see them at Damaged City Fest last year, he was curious. I'll have him take over this part of the review. - I know what Malvo said about the show last year and I wanted to see it for myself. First off, the band sounds great! But the guitar player was not facing the crowd at all during their set. This is a pet peeve of mine. I know there was a steel beam in front of him, but he could've stood on either side of it and faced the crowd. It irked me to no end. Then Brannon...well, it wasn't so bad. He seemed to be singing the songs just fine towards the end of their set, but for most of it, he was definitely just growling one word for a whole line in the song. The crowd was a weird one too. I don't know if it's because of the "No stage diving" policy, but the crowd was emotionless during the entire set. Well, except when "Ready To Fight" was played. Don't know how I would feel about that if I was in the band. One song made people move and the rest was met with head bobbing and stares. My opinion, they should give it up.

On a side note, my kids do like Malvo a lot. My old lady sent me a text during the show saying our kids wouldn't stop talking about him after we left. I'm beginning to think that he's giving my kids candy when I'm not looking. Anyway, I'll let Malvo entertain you with his man-crush of Jello Biafra. If you heard a girl shrieking on Sunday night around 11:15pm, it was probably him. Anyway, I will say that they sounded great and I'm looking forward to seeing them again. I guess I'll go ahead and use that download code he gave me a few months ago...

Photo by: Jeff Terranova

Photo by: Jeff Terranova

Photo by: Jeff Terranova

 

I hardly have a man-crush on Jello. But he is awesome in my book. Anyway, they come out and killed it! They sounded awesome. They played a nice mix of stuff from all of their records including a few Dead Kennedy's songs. The crowd gave them lot's of love no matter what they played. But, they definitely got more of a reaction when they played Dead Kennedy's songs. My favorite moment from the show was Jello asking the crowd if they had friends or family members that were into the Tea Party / Fox News. Then asking how they talked to them when it came to particular issues and then launching into "Nazi Punks, Fuck Off!" I almost threw myself from the balcony onto the crowd during that song. Place went bananas! The show went on pretty long with some encores, but I loved every minute of it. Everybody that was there definitely got their money's worth. I think they were on stage for about an hour and a half. Probably the longest show I've seen in a long time. But I'm not complaining.

UPDATE: After we posted this entry, we came across some photos by Jeff Terranova of Jello and the gang from their show in NY. Thank you to Jeff for allowing us to use a few of his photos to make our little blog look a lot cooler.

D.C.S.

Chain Of Strength return to Washington, D.C.

This past weekend Chain Of Strength made their way back to Washington, D.C. for the first time in a very long time. They played at St. Stephen's in Columbia Heights (aka hipster central) along with Red Death, Public Suicide, Praise, Mindset and Turnstile. Mindset was the only band that we had seen before. So we were curious about the other bands.

First up, Red Death - I heard about this band a couple of weeks ago and got to hear a song from their demo. Call me crazy, but as far as I'm concerned, anything NickTape is a part of is solid gold. That guy sings for Coke Bust, Sectarian Violence and is now playing bass for Red Death and I was totally digging their sound. Going to be downloading that demo from Bandcamp asap.

Public Suicide was up next annnnnnd we missed them. Why you ask? I'll tell you why...because it was hot as fuck inside of that place. I kid you not, I had to walk about 4 blocks to a CVS so I could buy some Goldbond because of the chaffing going on between my thighs. That's right. Chaffing. Too much info? I don't care. That shit sucked. Adult Crash thought it was hilarious. (He has this thing about enjoying my pain. He's also a bastard.) Needless to say, I had a cool relief going between my legs after that purchase. Back to the show we go.

While waiting for Praise to get set up, we notice the fiasco behind us at the merch tables. Specifically, the line for the Chain Of Strength merch looked like it was a mile long. After closer inspection, we could see that they had a shitload of stuff to sell. Shirts, posters, stickers, hoodies and watches. You name it, they had it. Well except for those iPhone 5 cases...Bummer.

Anyway, Praise comes on and they were okay. Not exactly our cup of tea. Not bad, but not exactly blowing us away. We both agreed that we will give one of their recording's a chance before we pass final judgement. They sort of reminded me of Give, but not quite.

Next up was Mindset and the place went nuts for them. If you like youth crew hardcore full of straight edge goodness, then this band is right up your alley. Adult Crash isn't much of a fan, but I dig them. I love the energy of their shows and they kind of remind me of Count Me Out. Highlight/Non-highlight of the show was the singer falling and getting back up with a nice stream of blood going down the side of his head and down his neck. I don't know what happened to that guy, but he was a trooper and finished their set. In retrospect, maybe he shouldn't have finished their set, because we heard people talking outside after the show saying something to the effect of him having to go to the hospital. Hope that guy is okay.

Turnstile was up next and holy shit, it was like a flashback to 1993 in New Yawk City. That band is just like all the bands that we hated from the early to mid 90's. Holy chugga chugga crap. We both looked at each other and cringed. I literally heard a guy in between songs tell his buddy that Turnstile was a band you could "groove to". Barf....Adult Crash suggested we build a time machine so that we could send them back to 1993, but it's not really necessary since a lot of bands from New York are still going with this horrible sound. Having said all this...people were losing their god damn minds over them. Clearly, we were in the minority with our opinions. 

Now, neither one of us has seen Chain Of Strength before. But we had to check them out in 2014. And thank god we did! Man, they sounded great and had lot's of energy. They played everything from both 7"s and Impact. Wish they could've played longer, but as you know, there's no other material. With as much love as they have for so many D.C. bands, I had hoped to hear a cover, but no dice.




People watching: Well, if you watched the clip above, then you probably already know what we're going to say. Camera guys on stage...Something has to be done about this, but what? What are the promoter's going to do, ban them? Not likely. Heard somebody bitching about the guy in the baby blue Bold shirt being in their way as they walked out of the show. I think it went something like "I didn't realize that I'd paid for an ass to be in my face too." Haha

All in all, it was another kick ass show put on by the Damaged City guys. Can't thank these guys enough for putting together all these shows. If not for them, then there may not even be any good shows coming into D.C. All you kids out there need to be counting your lucky stars that they bust their asses to put on shows.

D.C.S.

12"s that should be 7"s

It's good to be back! I see that Adult Crash has been sharing his thoughts with you all about Beyond (yawn) at BNB and his disdain for hardcore clothes on your kiddies. (I gotta agree with him on that.) But, I'm back to shoot my mouth off on stuff that came to mind while I was away. 

Case in point, while I was soaking up some rays on the beach with my lady friend, my iTunes "accidentally" started playing some D.Y.S. Now, this album is considered to be a hardcore classic. But I've always been of the opinion that it could be cut down to a 7". I mean, you could 86 "City to City", "The Girl's Got Limits", "Escape" and "Wolfpack". That's right. I said it. "Wolfpack" can go!

Humor me for a second before you dismiss me as somebody that has just gone off the deep end. Imagine how crucial of a 7" that Brotherhood could be with songs like "Open Up", "More Than Fashion", "Circle Storm", "Brotherhood", "Yellow", "Stand Proud" and "Insurance Risk"! Not only would the record have a fantastic record cover, but it would be loaded with seven amazing songs!

Instead, we're stuck with a 12" that features absolute garbage-songs like "City To City", "The Girl's Got Limits" and "Escape". I could see "Wolfpack" as a single or as something featured on a compilation. But I could easily wipe my ass with those other three pieces of shit.  As far as I'm concerned, those three songs were just a prelude to the absolute shit show that they had become after putting out Brotherhood.

D.C.S.